Mary Ann Palmer
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George Palmer
(Abt 1776-After 1842)
Sarah
(Abt 1781-After 1841)
Thomas Falkner
(1793-Bef 1842)
Charlotte Nunnery
(1805-1895)
George King Palmer
(Cal 1819-1890)
Mary Ann Falkner
(Cal 1824-1890)
Mary Ann Palmer
(Cal 1848-1913)

 

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Spouses/Children:
Thomas Wright

Mary Ann Palmer

  • Born: Cal 1848, Kirton, Lincolnshire 3 4
  • Marriage: Thomas Wright on 28 Jul 1867 in St Andrews, Derby, Derbyshire 1 2
  • Died: Jun 1913, Nottingham (reg) 5
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  General Notes:

Mary Ann Palmer seems the best bet. Note that her second son is George, name of her father and brother.

1851 2 Kirton, Lincolnshire
1861 14 Kirton, Lincolnshire
1871 22 Kirton, Lincolnshire
1881 32 Kirton, Lincolnshire
1891 44 Kirton, Lincolnshire
1901 53 Ketten, Lincolnshire
1911 65 Kirton, Lincolnshire
1913 66 (June QTR reg)

Further notes after receiving Thomas and Mary's marriage certificate.

In 1861 George K Palmer has moved from Swineshead, Lincs to Radford, Nottingham where he was working as a miller and baker at living at Holland Place, on the Ilkeston Road. Mary Ann was working as a house servant about1 kilometre away on Low Pavement.

Thomas and Mary married in Derby in July 1867. Thomas' occupation is given as labourer which could easily fit between his occupation as silk spinner in 1861 and gas fitter in 1871. His father Joseph is described as a gardener. He was described in 1861 as an agricultural labourer after all previous censuses had him as a frame work knitter.

Mary Ann's father is described as a baker on the certificate but his name is given as Charles. I'm assuming this is an error or possibly even deliberately misleading (I've checked for a Charles Palmer baker with daughter Mary but none can be found). The witnesses on the certificate are William and Ellen Wright. Thomas had a brother William Henry but I think he died before the wedding. He also had an uncle William but his wife wasn't Ellen. In 1861 there is a William Wright b1806 Beeston with 22 year old wife Ellen but I can't find a link to our Wrights.

The Palmer family is not represented on the certificate. Mary Ann was only 19 and the wedding was held a fair way from either home (Beeston/Radford) so it is possible she was pregnant at the time. Their first child Emma wasn't baptised until 1870 with her birth year given as 1868. The following year the family had moved to Yorkshire (Emma is 3 on the 1871 census) before moving back to Beeston by 1875 (Emma is 12 on the 1881 census).

George K Palmer in 1871 was a baker at Duke St, Radford. This street has gone now but was the next street down Ilkeston Road from Redoubt St where Mary Ann Wright lived with her daughters in 1901 and 1911. (http://nottstalgia.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=12461)

Despite inconsistencies on the marriage certificate I think the case is reasonably strong for Mary Ann Palmer being Mary Ann Wright.

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  Chronology:

She worked as a House Servant in 1861 and resided at Low Pavement, Nottingham. 6
Described as 14 years old and servant to widow Mary Girand, (agent for clothe's dyer) and her daughter also Mary. (Note that next door is the family of William Wright, 50, Tobacco Merchant but ca't find a link to our Wrights)

She worked as a Widow in 1901 and resided at 41 Redoubt St, Radford. 7
(with 7 children)

She worked as a Widow in 1911 and resided at 41 Redoubt St, Radford. 8
(with 4 daughters, 2 granddaughters and a boarder)


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Mary married Thomas Wright, son of Joseph Wright and Hannah Harper, on 28 Jul 1867 in St Andrews, Derby, Derbyshire.1 2 (Thomas Wright was born on 10 May 1846 in Beeston, Notts 9 10 11 and died in 1897-1899 in Nottingham (reg) 12.)


  Marriage Notes:

The marriage certificate:

Thomas Wright, Labourer, 21, 6 Peel St Terrace (Derby?) Father: Joseph Wright, Gardener
Mary Ann Palmer, , 19, 6 Peel St Terrace, Father: Charles Palmer, Baker.

Witnesses: William Wright, Ellen Wright

All four signed with a mark.

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1 FreeBMD Online Index of BMD, England & Wales, www.freebmd.org.uk, Marriage. Marriages Sep 1867
PALMER Mary Ann Derby 7b521
Wright Thomas Derby 7b521.

2 General Register Office (England & Wales) Certificate, http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/home.asp, Marriage.

3 Ancestry.com Online Census and BMD, www.ancestry.com, 1871C 1881C 1891C 1901C 1911c.

4 FreeBMD Online Index of BMD, England & Wales, www.freebmd.org.uk, Birth. First is most likely (note that Kirton is in Boston reg district)
Births Jun 1848
Palmer Mary Ann Boston 14282
Births Jun 1849
Palmer Mary Ann Boston 14291.

5 FreeBMD Online Index of BMD, England & Wales, www.freebmd.org.uk, Death. Deaths Jun 1913
Wright Mary A 66 Nottingham 7b375
(not certain but likely based on age and middle initial).

6 Ancestry.com Online Census and BMD, www.ancestry.com, 1861C. 1861
Name:Mary A Palmer
Age:14
Estimated birth year:1847
Relation:Servant (Employee)
Gender:Female
Where born:Kirton
Civil Parish:St Peter
Town:Nottingham
County/Island:Nottinghamshire
Country:England
Registration district:Nottingham
Sub-registration district:Castle
ED, institution, or vessel:2d
Neighbors:View others on page
Household schedule number:149
Piece:2466
Folio:34
Page Number:23
Household Members:
NameAge
Mary Girand40
Mary J Girand10
Mary A Palmer14
Benjamin Dowson24
Alice Sandier13
Elizabeth Horner36
Martha Johnson22.

7 Ancestry.com Online Census and BMD, www.ancestry.com, 1901C.

8 Ancestry.com Online Census and BMD, www.ancestry.com, 1911C.

9 JP (researchng Cox) 2004, Note that this as after Joseph and Elizabeth's first child.

10 Ancestry.com Online Census and BMD, www.ancestry.com, 1861C.

11 Web (Misc), Ancestry Message Aug 2015.

12 FreeBMD Online Index of BMD, England & Wales, www.freebmd.org.uk, Likely one of these:
Deaths Mar 1897
Wright Thomas 52 Nottingham 7b180
Deaths Dec 1899
Wright Thomas 53 Nottingham 7b227.